#office-hours - April 2020

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Public "Office Hours" are held every Wednesday at 11:30 PST via Zoom. It's open to everyone. Ask questions related to DevOps & Cloud and get answers!
👉️ https://cpco.io/slack-office-hours

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
@Ken Y.y welcome to #office-hours
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago(edited)
any questions you'd like to have answered on our call today?
androogle
androogleover 6 years ago
Andrew Roth
Andrew Rothover 6 years ago
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Adam Blackwell
Adam Blackwellover 6 years ago
Andrew Roth
Andrew Rothover 6 years ago
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
# Configure the Terraform (Enterprise) Provider
provider "tfe" {
  hostname = "${var.hostname}"
  token    = "${var.token}"
  version  = "~> 0.15.0"
}

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
anyone seen an open source implementation of this api?
Andrew Roth
Andrew Rothover 6 years ago
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
love this one ☝️
Adam Blackwell
Adam Blackwellover 6 years ago
Ken Y.y
Ken Y.yover 6 years ago
Thanks for a great session!
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago(edited)
@David Scott were you asking this week in office hours about how to run Github Action's Runners inside of containers, when the actions themselves run containers?
David Scott
David Scottover 6 years ago(edited)
Hey @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse), thanks for following up! I’m currently working with terraform github actions. Running them in a hosted runner in EKS fails to mount the code from the Checkout step into the terraform-github-actions container due to docker-in-docker volume mounting issues:

The docker run command tries to volume-mount the content from the Checkout step into the terraform-github-actions container. Because the docker socket is a volume mount from the EKS worker node, it ends up trying to mount -v "/home/github-runner/_work/_temp/_github_home":"/github/home" from the EKS node, not from the github-runner pod where the git Checkout happened, and terraform can’t find any code when it runs.
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Sooooo the reason I reached out is @mumoshu just shared he's working on a solution for Kubernetes
mumoshu
mumoshuover 6 years ago
@mumoshu has joined the channel
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago(edited)
I'm not exactly sure it will address your problems, but it was started as a way of addressing how to run GitHub Action's Runner in a containerized environment (#kubernetes )
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
@David Scott you were also running EKS, right?
David Scott
David Scottover 6 years ago
Yes! This shows a lot of potential for me. I’ll poke around and see if it can handle things like adding the role annotation to the ServiceAccount, and a few other edge cases.
David Scott
David Scottover 6 years ago
Thank you for showing me this.
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 6 years ago
Weren't we just talking about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx110kqoHo0
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Btw, here's that chat bot (saas) for aws cloudwatch I wanted to share last week but couldn't think of the name
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
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👉️ New Zoom Recording from our Office Hours session on 2020-04-01 is now available.
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Is this once a week?
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Yes, next one tomorrow
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
We have an Nginx ingress port question using websockets. Would this be an appropriate place to ask during the Office?
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Thanks Erik. What time or it's an all day kind of thing
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Ah 11:30 am PST got it
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Tnx
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
See you there!
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Should we post questions here if we can't join with video?
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
You can ask it here, but it will be easier if you're ont he call so it can be interactive.
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Just jumping in car. Post question in 2 secs
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
In meantime as I type you might like http://getcommandeer.com/
Todd Lyons
Todd Lyonsover 6 years ago
A group of SRE’s in our company wrote this as a templating system useful for getting things out of vault and into helm deploys:
https://github.com/PremiereGlobal/stim
Goal is simplify Jenkinsfiles that are using Jenkins credentials to construct and run helm commands.
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
So we are trying to deploy a HA RabbitMQ deployment using Rancher, K8s and Docker.

We cannot open the port for RMQ websockets (or at very least it will not connect) port 15674.

The load balancer is landing on the proper port but will not fwd to the proper port. It does not detect anything on the other end. It is not HTTP and what is interesting is that the admin section of RMQ is HTTP, and it's port works.

It is TCP and we use WebSTOMP client library.

We see they port is open on the instance but the ingress LB will not connect. We tried to strip it down still no luck.
Basically a 503.

We tried different ingress' like HAProxy, Traefik, as well, logged in from console, but it didnt work. Even following the RMQ instructions very closely.
Seems like it is the ingress config because it doesn't work with any of them. So it doesn't seem like this is a NGINX issue to me.

Seems like a configuration issue.

Any ideas? Thanks guys.
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Digital Ocean atm
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Well even if we remove the LB from the discussion, lets just say the issue is the ingress
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
It is TCP btw
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
we are using the default NGINX ingress that comes with Rancher
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
the ingress binds fine to the rancher admin port
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
it does not work for binding to the rabbit mq webstomp port
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
WebSTOMP = Simple Text Over Messaging Protocol over TCP
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
ahhh
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
what LB did you use?
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
to summarize we cannot get ws:// or wss:// protocols to work at all
this is an ingress config issue IMO

but which config and how to configure - no idea. Have tried everything
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago
I will get back to you after this. I might have an idea.
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Awesome, sorry to overwhelm just thought it was me asking questions. REALLY appreciate that discussion
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago
How did you deploy rabbitmq?
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
thank you
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
using the RMQ chat @Pierre Humberdroz
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
*chart
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago(edited)
Have you guys ever used Fanout.io? Enterprise version of Pushpin.
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago(edited)
this is how to run github actions (runners) onprem under kubernetes
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
I ask because with all this RabbitMQ config issues we always had a plan to wait for Kafka to remove the Zookeeper requirement, and then considered Fanout reverse proxy just as good to use as a fanout broker
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
haha really?
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
The confluent guys seemed to communicate it was in process and that was late 2019
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
You guys ever use FoundationDB? We are setting up a JanusGraph on Cassandra and then are considering instead Foundation
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
🙂
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Have played quite a bit with Neo4j
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
It is great, heavy lock in and expensive. We are going with JanusGraph. AWS and IBM using JG (based off old Titan)
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
It is a GDB
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Plus Gremlin Query Lang is great
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago(edited)
Well heck we cant get the RMQ stomp PORT open HA!
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
this is if you want to send slack notifications @mfridh
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Have you guys tried Rancher K3's?
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago(edited)
only k3sup from alex
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Have you ever looked at Begin?
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago(edited)
Just a little snippet that I learned to love. 🙂 Makes helm list -A so much nicer to look at:
yq w -i .deployment/$PROJECT_NAME/Chart.yaml appVersion $DOCKER_IMAGE_TAG
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
serverless stuff https://begin.com/
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago
jq -n --arg channel "$SLACK_CHANNEL" --arg text "New version of $CI_PROJECT_TITLE online $DOCKER_IMAGE_TAG" '{"channel":$channel, username: "Changelog", "text": $text, "icon_emoji": ":bulb:"}'

BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
trying to learn about k3's more see if they cover our K8's use
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Has anyone ever hit a Lambda limit?
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
You guys are awesome, thanks so much!!
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago
yes.. I hate lambdas it gives to many constraints on the developer
BitsnBites
BitsnBitesover 6 years ago
Ya we are worried about it
Zachary Loeber
Zachary Loeberover 6 years ago
I want to join @Pierre Humberdroz, how do I get the secret hand-shake for that one?
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago(edited)
What is your slack handle in the kubernetes slack @Zachary Loeber?
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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
erik
erikover 6 years ago
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago
@Andrew Roth you mentioned that you would not use gitlab's container registry why is that?
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👉️ New Zoom Recording from our Office Hours session on 2020-04-15 is now available.
Pratap
Pratapover 6 years ago
Ho to all, can anyone help to to fetch the alerting details or data from Elasticsearch and send it to otrs ticketing tool using terraform. I read the aws kinesis using terraform but a confusion is still there. So I am asking here. If anyone worked with on this plz help me.
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
@Pratap join us tomorrow on the Zoom call and we'll try to provide some guidance on how to accomplish this.
Zachary Loeber
Zachary Loeberover 6 years ago
Maybe worth mentioning on office hours today, two items (of several) that made the kubernetes podcast "news of the week' (https://kubernetespodcast.com/episode/100-community-redux/). One is Pluto from Fairwinds. They always seem to produce quality tooling, Pluto is used to discover depreciated apiVersions in Kubernetes . Another is Magicpak, an interesting tool for building minimal docker images without static linking.
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 6 years ago
This may be a FAQ,,, What's the most sane way to spin up fresh mySQL/MariaDB instances in containers..... the images in Docker hub don't have the right address binding to be accessible from the host OS and it was a P I T A !!
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Blaise Pabonover 6 years ago
I have a little show and tell today.
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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
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Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago
Google's Open Sourcing Guidelines:
https://opensource.google/docs/creating/
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Omer Sen
Omer Senover 6 years ago
Is there a way to disable some certain fields not to written on terraform state file. For example i put my secrets as encrypted variables on my terraform.tfvars but i can see it unencrypted in state file
raghu
raghuover 6 years ago
What if your tf repo shared with devs. It would be problem with security. I dont prefer secrets in tf vars
Omer Sen
Omer Senover 6 years ago
They are not clear text
Omer Sen
Omer Senover 6 years ago(edited)
They are encrpyted via KMS and show as encrypted
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Omer Sen
Omer Senover 6 years ago(edited)
But they can be seen clear text on s3 Bucket(which is also encrypted with KMS but visible on AWS console etc)
Omer Sen
Omer Senover 6 years ago
I read them and decrpt them on the fly
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 6 years ago
Personal appeal
I'm (in a rush) working on an interview exercise and need some help UN-phucking a docker-compose:
https://github.com/blaisep/hiring-engineers/blob/feature/blaisep/zero2datadog/docker/docker-compose.yaml
if someone can do me a solid and help me figure out why I can't connect to mysql from the host os, you'll have a friend in Santa Cruz....
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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Pierre Humberdroz
Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago
my ci cd list
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👉️ New Zoom Recording from our Office Hours session on 2020-04-22 is now available.
chonan tsai
chonan tsaiover 6 years ago
Got an interesting case here. One of our internal applications grew organically over time. as we approached 30 internal users, things was beginning to slow. We can’t do a LB with many smaller instances due to the fact we have a couple of places using databases table as queue (this would result in some race condition - no locking mechanism). So what we ended up doing is separate all the async & recurring tasks and have them run on another server. We did this by setting up an elaborate CICD where the master repo would sync to a secondary repo (98% code is the same), then updates the primary instance and then updates the secondary async-task instance. This is providing user some relieve on the UX. But, the overall architecture is hard to maintain from a devops point of view. What would you do from here on to clean this up?
A) Clean up application logic so that there is no reliance on using db as queue. Using SQS to implement the queue then implement LB.
B) Instead of using a secondary repo, just keep everything in the master repo but have different set of config for the secondary instance.
C) All of above

What tools would you recommend for managing all this?
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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
@here public #office-hours starting now! join us to talk shop :zoom: https://zoom.us/j/508587304
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Andrew Roth
Andrew Rothover 6 years ago
Should be able to join in a bit. Can do some show-and-tell with https://github.com/RothAndrew/istio-practice/blob/master/eks/README.md if people are interested

The HTTPS section in particular feels really useful
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
Nice we can go over this
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Adam Blackwellover 6 years ago
❤️ https://github.com/RothAndrew/istio-practice/blob/master/eks/README.md#https I'll definitely run through these docs since I've been meaning to play with Istio more.
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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 6 years ago
@Andrew Roth flagger is what I am thinking about for managing the business logic of canaries
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Pierre Humberdrozover 6 years ago
https://github.com/opendistro-for-elasticsearch/community/issues/25#issuecomment-522084664
Btw super awesome way for getting tracing working with elastic apm and jaeger
Adam Blackwell
Adam Blackwellover 6 years ago
Cool! We also published some of the videos from observe 20/20 which taught me a lot about tracing: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3UV2PEUA9NvUOxTkXuEhuw
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Blaise Pabonover 6 years ago
Is there a tutorial or example of using cert-manager as the local CA ? That would be handy for my home lab....
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