#office-hours - July 2019

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Public "Office Hours" are held every Wednesday at 11:30 PST via Zoom. It's open to everyone. Ask questions related to DevOps & Cloud and get answers!
👉️ https://cpco.io/slack-office-hours

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 7 years ago
Public #office-hours starting now! Join me here: https://zoom.us/meeting/register/dd2072a53834b30a7c24e00bf0acd2b8

Have any questions? This is your chance to ask us anything.
dalekurt
dalekurtover 7 years ago
missed it today, had a meeting conflict.
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 7 years ago
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 7 years ago
@Blaise Pabon I finally remembered the OS... it’s called NixOS
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 7 years ago
What was the the name of the sandbox style package manager for red hat?
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
Oh! I remember nixOS! my old boss Ariya is a huge fan of their package manager Nix
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 7 years ago
Yep!
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
OK, so the redhat OS package manager is ostree
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
for the system image
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 7 years ago
Do you know how ostree compares to nix? Or is it apples to oranges
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
and the next-gen package manager for applications is called flatpak.
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
Sooo... ostree is for the system image
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 7 years ago
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
right and NixOS has a similar approach to system images of NixOS.
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
rpm-ostree is for RHEL style os
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
actually the genealogy is more like this:
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago(edited)
CoreOS begat ostree (which is mostly found on RedHat systems)
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago(edited)
NixOS begat nix (although now nix runs on other OS, including Mac OS!)
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
IF you're booting NixOS, then nix can manage your system images.
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
If you're booting CoreOS, then ostree will manage your system images.
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
...and since CoreOS has tight collaboration with Fedora and RHEL, the ecosystem of .rpms is ported over.... whereas there are fewer nixOS binaries and some packages you will have to build from source.
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
I suspect that NixOS will become the NetBSD of the devops world: bombproof, stable, late to adopt.
and CoreOS/OStree will become the RHEL of the Enterprise world.
Blaise Pabon
Blaise Pabonover 7 years ago
Don't get me wrong, 'nix is a very kickass solution if you are switiching beteween monolithix development environments (python, Java) where a sdk version can mean a whole different set of dependencies.
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 7 years ago
@here Public #office-hours with cloud posse starting now! https://zoom.us/s/508587304 join if you have any questions or want to listen in.